679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Obviously we would have had to rely on other evidence gained, from all sources. Carter says a vehicle was parked at the old CPS/DCS Welfare building in Delphi on the east side of County Road 300 North, next to the Hoosier Heartland Highway between noon and 5 p.m. February 14, 2017. R192 My understanding is the Facebook page had a photo of an amateur singer as the profile photo. The audio of a mans voice saying down the hill was seconds long and was released free of video. Delphi Timeline: The investigation into the murders of Libby and Abby. One of his victims was a female bird watcher on an obscure trail of a nature reserve leading to speculation that the killer knew the specific area and lived/worked nearby. Kids should be allowed to have some adventures. But still killing two teenage girls who decided at the last minute to take an unadvertised hike? I can't imagine the 13-15 year olds he would have been "catfishing" would have any memory or even the devices they owned from back then. He was caught while abducting and trying to kill a young girl (same MO). Abby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. Did anything they said at either of the latest press conferences seem to fit with that theory? Is he the guy here continually saying "No way it's him. This killer sounds like he has a remarkably similar MO. Desperate. I really want this guy to pay. What happened on that unusually warm February day remains a mystery to this day to everyone but Liberty German, Abigail Williams and the man who murdered them. "The ties are starting to rot. Like I said above, the girls would have been heard screaming if they were killed at 3 pm. The search for Libby and Abby resumed on Valentines Day morning, Feb. 14, 2017. The Monon Trail also passes by the former (now abandoned) estate of Herb Baumeister, who buried some 30+ of his victims on the property. Is there partial DNA or a full DNA profile of the suspect? Im not sure how that fits with religious iconography. Explaining that he had made himself a promise when he was about Delphis age to find out the circumstances surrounding her death, Lawrence waited until after March, when his 82-year-old mother, Doris Reeves Lawrence, passed away, to begin asking questions. This case haunts me. Unless there was something incredibly bizarre about the crime scene, how do you determine something is a signature unless you're comparing it to another crime scene where the same things were seen? If you see something that doesnt look right, Contact Us. Wow! I think he said it was Libby's body that had a stake driven vertically through her abdomen. I wish theyd nail this guy. No details surrounding how the girls were found or their cause of death have ever been released. In February 2017, they were about halfway through the eighth grade and had a day off from school in their small town of Delphi, Indiana. The cops clearly fucked up the investigation in someway (obtaining evidence through legally inadmissible means). They threaten you, they don't go jump start to killing two people. (WLS) -- There is a new All these years later, police still have not given many details about the cause of death to protect the case. Kline reportedly admitted to police that he'd use the bogus accounts to talk to underage girls, contacting both people he knew and didnt know. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. When you start patching together all of the little snippets, it seems like something very freaky was done with bodies. Provided Photo One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. During the press conference in April 2019, Indiana State Police also requested the public's help to identify the driver of a vehicle that was parked near the Monon High Bridge on the day Libby and Abby went missing. R392 I've clearly said that the tattoo could be any of the 3 women - Libby, Linda Blair in The Exorcist or his mother. Because of social media, and the onslaught of armchair detectives, pictures and information of people who may look like the man in the photo circulated, causing death threats and harassment. I just finished part II. I am not surprised that this crime was committed there, and I would not be surprised if Indiana law enforcement officers know exactly who did it and are simply too complicit or too incompetent to bring the killer or killers to justice. HLN had a 5-year anniversary show on Saturday night. They're probably going to kill you anyway. They've never publicly released information as to what exactly happened to the girls, though one can only assume they were likely sexually assaulted before being killed. Im sure I sound kooky, but ithese details were so obvious and couldnt be ignored. R225 Consider where they grew up. click ACCEPT. Way back at the start (when I thought this would be satisfying to follow cuz it would be solved fast) there was online talk of shunned Amish communities around Delphi that seemed to have some promise . did that go anywhere? Thanks for clarifying, r301 - Obviously there's a lot of speculation and wild theories about this crime. Imagine knowing the killer is in the community, could be someone you speak to everyday and they are just walking about as if nothing happened. A good case can take time to develop. I WONDER why we could think this guy might possibly have been involved. Hopefully, it's him to give the family closure and he don't kill other girls. As her family grew frustrated with the lack of developments in the case, Liberty's older sister Kelsi German revealed in February 2020 that she is studying forensic science in the hope of one-day helping to solve who killed her sister. any similarities to the girl he kidnapped and held hostage and one of the murdered girls? [quote]The only thing I can think of is that he was comparing body to body three unusual things done to/with each body. This is why I question that persons credibility. I suspect they were gagged. He is currently serving a life sentence without parole. R259, the video is blurry. R178 He really needs to be pushed into an active volcano. [quote] I thought she was too, OP, but in that image she is in a sitting position against a tree. Little by little, he broached the subject with relatives who had previously remained silent about the death. While I understand the video makes it look like an older man, as others have indicated the bridge has very large gaps. When that pickup time arrived, the girls were nowhere to be found. This one really bothers me in a way others don't. R233 I dont think hes fat, either. In the drone pic it looked as if one body was posed with her shirt over her head and an object lying between her legs. I have to read a little and then back off for awhile. Of course I say it could, but all of this is only a guess. In the video he looks to me like he's walking with a limp. [quote]It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims. Didn't he force them to get in water at one point? R414, you dont think that the police are keeping the family informed? I haven't followed this case extremely closely but now I do wonder if the police know it's this guy. Some people think he owed a drug debt, and Libby was killed as a message to him. They have no evidence to tie this guy on audio or the video other than snippets of poor quality. Ok, maybe this screenshot shows why I see a younger guy loaded with stuff. (Unfortunately the interviewer did not ask him to say "guys down the hill"), FWIW He did have the most interesting thing to say, whether or not it is true is another thing. It's a strange case. Several serial killers would return to the decomposing bodies of their victims. There is part of the video of one of the girls reactions that haunts one of the investigators. If interested, check out the podcast murder sheet which actually has a reading of the 130 page transcript. R266-- I agree, that IS him. This is why I question that persons credibility. It looks pretty likely that Chadwell, the man arrested for sexually assaulting and holding a 9 year old girl captive in his basement, is the Delphi killer. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in the neighbourhood of Hampstead, which is located in the city of London, England, UK. The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her
R219: Leigh Kerr appeared last night 3/2/2021 (either at LibbyandAbby or BuckRowdys new sub DelphiTodayIsTheDay) saying he had personal issues to attend to and would still respond. R7 Please elaborate! The tattoo is creepy because the blank/empty show depersonalization, yet the tears (or blood) indicate suffering. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. Why was there no mention of two girls screaming loudly while being stabbed to death? I mean, not knowing the howmeans any awful thing you think of, if that makes sense. It appears LE is going with the son covering for the dad. I worked with a barrister once who had had to view CP images. The Story Of The Unsolved Delphi Murders And The Chilling Video Evidence Left Behind. "The information has obviously been sharedwith us, and our investigators are looking into him," Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said of Chadwell's case. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. R299, the tattoo dates to before the murders, there's a photo of him playing with a puppy in 2016 where he has the tat. Highly unlikely theyre not in the loop. I agree with the other poster too who says looking at their photos they just look like such nice girls, it really breaks your heart. A coroner decided there were no suspicious circumstances surrounding the
I am not a good judge of age, he looks to be anywhere from late twenties to late thirties, early forties from that photo. It was the last time the girls were seen alive, and the recordings German collected on her phone including a chilling recording of the mans voice remains almost the only evidence ever released to the public in whats become known as the Delphi murders. ENOUGH. The first thing found was the girls clothing so it's likely they were sexually assaulted. Tony Slocom said at the time. I think this is the likely reason and if so it is a very clever tactic. Per the leaked texts by the uncle who found them, Liberty got the worst of it and was the one who was left naked. They need to take their time and make sure they get it right and have the evidence they need to convict. HLN is doing a 2 part series on the Delphi girls on Feb 14 and 15. The context surrounding the images, which were stills from a moving video, has never been given. No way. A person named Kegan Anthony Kline has been arrested in connection with the Monday night plea from Indiana State Police. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. Delphi Lawrences Instagram profile link read as . Born to Barbara Yvonne (ne Enever) and Louis Holzman, who wed in 1930, she was of Hungarian ancestry on her father's side. R284, there's no mention of him being into hunting or fishing but his social media had a lot of photos of him outdoors, including one of him in a tent. The photos at the link found in R93's thread aren't useful at all, but the info about the two white Dodge Darts is pretty interesting. Really can't get around finding the child on the actual premises, injured and chained up in the basement. She graduated to lead roles but almost exclusively in "B"films. In the past three years, only one person of interest has ever been named. All they have is a few words and a blurry image. Some armchair detectives have even gone as far as attempting to reconstruct the murders in elaborate YouTube videos. R4777 Anyone who was a Snapchat friend could have seen Libby's feed that showed her photo of Abby on the bridge or other photos that Libby took at the trails. Dont remember specs well enough . not sure these girls were even old enough to menstruate. The bodies of Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, on February 14, 2017. Leigh Kerrs new postings are contradictory to me - religious yet sexual tableau.. No teenage girls want to "go for a walk" without having a different motive. The sheriff also had notable body language that could be interpreted as guilt or fear. There are lots of close-ups of his jacket and I see an outline of a gun in his right pocket area. A FB member of the group made the connection about a year ago and sent screen grabs to the Delphi Murders investigators. It could explain why Liberty was left undressed (to shame her and the family) and the other girl wasnt (collateral damage). He's most likely a phony. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. In the thread, a poster has made several Photoshop images that show how the photo of Liberty used on the Missing posters matches up with a creepy tattoo on the guy's arm. I dont think you could stop yourself from screaming if threatened with a gun. Electrocute his sick, sadistic, sorry ass. All that I could get my hands on. She was an actress, known for The Man Who Could Cheat Death (1959), The Man Who Finally Died (1959) and The Avengers (1961). I hope this revives momentum in the investigation and finally leads to an arrest. Weight ages you. I do hope she's ok as well. Crossing the bridge was not permitted and signs were posted. Who would remember that years later to the day? I am only guessing. What a tragic shame. If they know who it is, that name would get out. This case has really bothered me that someone got away with doing this. He knew what he was going to say before he said it.. Some say that the girls were killed inside a barn on RL's property and then later moved and during "dark hours" after LE had stopped searching. They also say they now believe that the second sketch is a more accurate depiction of the suspect, although the actual suspect may likely be a mix between both sketches. I care about this case and am so angry that someone has gotten away with it for this long. In any case like that, there is always reason to have doubt, she said in an interview last week. I used to think that they were going to get a conviction, but even if they found someone they have done such a lousy job of delaying facts that fueled social media sleuths and will be great material for any defense attorney to use. We all knew this sick piece of shit would kill again. Or not. This is an app that is going to help so many people and change the perspective of crime, and hopefully solve cases and get arrests for many unsolved cases.. @R321-- I honestly didn't see another face tattoo because I was so horrified by that one. A. Like they had a name, someone to watch? Not sure where the phone was found or if the guy knew a recording had been made. R45 I think they crossed at a shallow point? Delphi Lawrences income source is mostly from being a successful Actress. The woman hasnt posted back in 5 days I wonder if shes ok and if she was telling the truth! You might even have to pay before the delivery but never after. Friends of the two said they had seen them together around 9:30 p.m. or 10 p.m. on March 5, 1971, in the area of East Market Street and South Matlack Street. READ | Investigators say internet rumors can hinder search for Delphi killer. In that tread it said that the girls had spotted him earlier and he creeped them out. That's preposterous. Small town or not, this is the 21st century. Is he the guy here continually saying "No way it's him. A virtual walkthrough of the scene of the Delphi murders provides a look at how the suspect likely approached Abby Williams and Libby German. What's the update? R23 Im not sure the video could include the murdersunless you mean just the audio? While interesting, I found it almost unwatchable due to the poor sound editing. What happened to the girls doesn't have to have been "freaky" to upset people, just finding them partly clothed or nude and dead, possibly posed, would be bad enough. The guy behind Anthony schotz profile was in communication with Libby all weekend long. This perp needs to be caught and fried. The boyfriend and his brother were known for importing drugs through their small town, very well connected to the drug suppliers, the girlfriend found out and was killed. Has there been a profile of him by the FBI? Cell phone signal is bad there thats why they were unable to call for help. "This is not two people speaking. Congratulations on this excellent venture what a great idea! DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. Nothing out there is accurate, which only leads to more false tips.. [quote] Who the hell would walk that bridge, much less allow kids to walk on it alone? well, Chadwell is 42 and has been in and out of jail. He just needs to know when the trail exists, when it is empty, and that two women entered alone. R97 I think the images and audio were from the cloud. Investigators say the more information a tipster can give them, the better, because the more information they can enter into the system the more potential connections can be made and checked. [quote]Recording the recording, that it is brief and that it recorded the murders. John Terhune/Journal & Courier A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. Just two years older than Delphi, she considered him her protector in dealing with the kids in West Chester, Lawrence said. The identity of the male model used by the account in its profile pictures is known by investigators and they are not considered a person of interest in the case. Detectives who have been working the investigation for Indiana State Police and the Carroll County Sheriff's Office reached out to the public Monday looking for the public's help gathering information about the user of a social media profile. Trying to recall which podcast, but it was raised with either a family remember it law enforcement. Carroll County Sheriffs OfficeCarroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. James Brian Chadwell has a tie to Peru, IN where fat pedo lives. R50 I saw those images but cant make them out. 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