Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. I believe the board was deceived by Satan. year. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. And if I can give you a context, where I was in my thought process, in that. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. And we were at an absolute stalemate. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. And the demands that James McDonald made to try to go home a day early. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. And my wife, my wife and I looking at each other and going are we really doing this? The devil is at work. Can you share what was in it? If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? He teaches that wives should endure abuse like a missionary endures persecution. This story saddens me. Then pray for all of us. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. I certainly am no Bible scholar. There were elders and influential families that spoke against Moses in the desert, God destroyed them and their families. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. We knew what we knew what we were going to do. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. 1) Julie Roys. If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. I say this as a Christian who was taken to task by Christian doctors who told me of all sorts of cases that are not as the woman loved murdering her baby as many pro-life conservatives want everyone to believe. This is going amongst the elders now. She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. I followed up with this text but Julie did not respond immediately to my request for a comment. He would probably be wildly successful. Thank you Jesus, Amen. How does this relate to his view of women? . This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. No, Im just reporting. And while youre at it, Id really appreciate it if youd help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review. We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. I was at work. Yeah, yeah. No, it wasnt edited. And thats got to be a heavy. And it was just a deep sadness, deep sadness. And there was just this push against a public rebuke. Great! Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . They said no, for various reasons. And I thought, Oh, my gosh! uterus or clean out a womb after a stillbirth (because these treatments are labeled abortions, and even that word brings out comments like yours). Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. I dont know whether its the way way down or the way back Id have to reread the letter, but I mean, they stopped and went to the DR,. And, and the drama begins. I had been investigating Harvest for months. Had they reached all the elders at this point? Yes, I agree. So for Jim McDonald to say that he didnt remember like, Im not buying it, right? If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. @Cynthia Wright Love your comment. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. You can review it. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Ron Duitsman, Chairman of the Board, who agreed to fire James, now appears to be out there, saying that after James got fired, that the elders were were spinning what happened in a false way. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. And that was a big question. I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. You are Julie. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. It basically says Jesus is as real as Santa Claus. So then James McDonald flies in, right? We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. He scared me in bible college I wanted nothing to do with him. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. And again, this was on the churchs dime. A man of God who just wanted to take a vacation with his family, has the right to use church money which is his only source of income. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. This was a many time thing. Then let me just ask you from the start, why are you doing this? Thats about my attitude lately. Why is that? I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. This is a story that directly contradicts what MacDonald published in recent videos and statements on his webpage. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. Bank Dismisses Foreclosure on James MacDonald's Estate After Settlement with Harvest. Vernick, however, believes abuse is grounds for divorce. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. She declined. And I remember reading through that scripture and reading through Hebrews 13:17, about elders overseeing and giving an account, and Galatians 1:10 about am I trying to please man, am I trying to please God? Wives submit to your husbands. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. Anne Green, who is married, alleged that MacDonald touched her inappropriately on a private plane in 2005. So I appreciate it. And I remember a comment being made. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. The only joy in doing this is we would be obeying Gods word. And that reminded me of something that Dan Marquardt told me. Still. So Im deeply grateful for their faithful support. I know a lot of people look at this. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, hes a victim of defamation by an envious childand needs your money to rebuild.. And and that would be my word to James McDonald. Dan also was in numerous meetings with James McDonald prior to his firing. How can we approve this? The text included the hashtags #gossipslut #gossipmonger #filthygutterwebsite #cancerinChristsbody., MacDonald also tweeted the invitation, referring to me as Julie Jezebel Roys.. But he said even the way said that he said, we got out of that meeting, we looked at each other. So that we could live in freedom. I need to repent. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 First he used to walk up and down the isles and second it was a bit more exegetical than primarily exhortation based and those dynamics flipped. They should go to the reconciliation team. Thats thats a much harder relaunch. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. . Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. Then the board announced its executive committee would be resigning over the next few months. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. So if youre listening, you need and you havent read those letters, you need to go back and Dean Butters, I mean that one has to be just the emotional impact of the the bullying and the abuse, and then even a video where he mocked a very well known Christian leader because she was getting married in midlife for the first time and mocking her for never having sex before. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. Im not positive on that. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. But according. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity and transparency. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. Hes talking about James McDonald, but not calling him out by name. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. Thanks for a thoughtful, educated, godly response. And by the meeting that night, the executive committee came to the elder board with a unanimous recommendation, per the bylaws, that James McDonalds employment should be terminated for cause at that point. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. And why do you do it in front of everybody? Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. And as people rotated through, there were newer people on the board, and they wouldnt have really had a lot of access to to James McDonald. Like Tullian Tchvidjian, he would be a great salesman. I am so sorry to report that he has not changed. How come its always wives submit to your husbands and never husbands love your wives? And in case you dont know, Dan Marquardt was one of three former elders at Harvest, who stood up to James McDonald in 2013, and was excommunicated as a result. (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". This wasnt anything else. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. . And I want to help people lead the church well. And we were at a stalemate. Guard your heart and keep it diligentlyfor from it flows the content of your life. Because again, that was one letter that never got published and the contents, other than what Ron Duitsman said in his recent video because he actually referenced that letter. I agree. To donate, James MacDonald Ministries June 13, 2021 Email, Ed Stetzer Named Dean of Biola Universitys Talbot School of Theology, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Landon MacDonald to Lead Arizona Megachurch Despite Allegations of Abuse When at Harvest Bible Chapel, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. He has always been a total its all about me. Well, you know, we laugh about it. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. I remember one other elder leading over to me and said repentant people dont ask for money. Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. I appreciate elders (Hebrews 13:17). For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. Because I believe in the church. But the one letter that isnt published came from Sandy Song. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. . I encourage you to talk to Christian doctors who are fearful of extreme under no circumstances legislation that now forces molested preteens to give birth, and makes it difficult to treat a septic Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. And he was the elder who insisted that scathing letters written by former and current staff at Harvest actually reached the members of the board. I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. And everybody had to say, right? Marin, Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. You really didnt know at that point, whether he was going to get fired, or resign, or what was going to happen until Mancow Muller aired those vulgar excerpts from this hot mic recording that James McDonald didnt know he was on mic. Jacob Ross, all the credit card that James used for personal expenses. Well, again, joining me today is Dan George, a former elder at Harvest, and one of only two former elders whos apologized to me personally, for some of the nasty things that were said about me when I was reporting on the church and James McDonald. So what happened? John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. One, its impossible, and were gonna get killed, were gonna get slaughtered on that. Thats right. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. Sandy talked about over the years, other staff members coming to her after meeting with James McDonald in tears, just crushed. Gary, Julie. You know, Ive been here the whole time. I was thrown out of the church we gave our lives to by a group of rogue leaders, MacDonald writes. And they were praying in earnest this entire time. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? I remember waking up that morning. At least some did. And you have James McDonald coming in, from the United States, getting off the plane for a little bit, doing a few meetings, which I guess he complained about doing. Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Okay thats what Gods word says. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James McDonald? And to hear that, its still got to be pretty tough to stand up to that, or at that point where you like, now I know the truth, Im moving forward. And I dont need to know. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? I also knew that I needed to talk enough so that it wasnt like, well, this whats whats going on with him? And Im just trying to smear him. This is this is one of the biggest things elders could do. And that would have been right before you came back on the board. We did not hurry. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. Can you say what was in that letter? And now think about this. George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. So its critically important that the truth be told. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. It was demonic. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. But he demanded that he be flown home on a private jet. And with that opening, I felt like it was confirmed. Literally more than two dozen people. It just seems that the church of the USA is a joke. He had joined, I think a year into, into Harvests history. His sermons changed from adoration of the text to little postcard messages. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. I pray for the man. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. And you got all of them. The news came less than a week after another update from Julie Roys, . It was in the very, very early days of its launch. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. And Dean Butters letter came in that way as well. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. So they have no idea what they really these, the elder board was large and had no idea really who James MacDonald was, am I right? I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. These were people bringing charges against an elder. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? And I just felt this incredible weight. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Hi. There was just an absolute refusal to rebuke him publicly. In that same meeting that same Thursday night, he argued, the elders shouldnt have the letters. There were voices raised. Makes me sad and understand why his life went out of control. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. Five of the six have been published. Am I right? So he was fired. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. Well, and thanks so much for listening to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. And this is this was this was hard, but at the end of the night, we talked through it, we shared things from the letters. It was a Wednesday or Thursday night on the Rolling Meadows campus. Nearly 30 pages, innumerable charges between all those people, Julie, they served on the staff of Harvest Bible Chapel for somewhere between 40 and 50 years collectively. Not everybody had the physical letters, but we talked through what was in the letters. Am I characterizing what happened there accurately? I remember that too. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? God will deal with him. The Lord made it really clear. Pastor Platforming James MacDonald Says Strong Women with Weak Husbands Become 'Toxic' By Julie Roys December 22, 2022 5:39 pm CST 26 Comments Pastor Ryan Visconti of Generation Church in Mesa, Arizona, is attracting attention for his partnership with James MacDonald and provocative social media posts. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. The man does not make the ministry., God [emailprotected]. I see that as just simply implicating a larger group and a conspiracy to use church money for stuff that was never intended. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. And I was still on the elder board, we shrunk the elder board that next week down to nine men. Yeah. . One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. No, its not how it went down, Julie. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. And remember, a week before the decision had been made, in terms of not qualified as an elder and his employment would be over. Thanks that is hilarious!! Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. In our required Old and New Testament classes, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible. He wasnt bringing it to the elders and through a discussion with a couple of the pastors, chose to give it to the elders, which we were thankful for. (Proverbs 27:12). Tim, thanks I should have read before commenting and exactly! To donate, click here. Charles, That this wasnt just James failure. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. It was a large elder board. I stepped into a conference room. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. So these letters, and this is what I found really riveting about your story, is when these letters were first given, as you said, they were given to pastors, with the exception of Sandys letter that went directly to you. The pastor of the largest church in Minnesota (around 23,000 average . Very loyal to James McDonald. 2. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. Pastor James will provide answers in upcoming featured video posts. In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. Hi. We knew I needed to do it. Like, I cant believe this. But its a story that needs to be toldand rememberedgiven that MacDonald is trying to relaunch his ministry in Chicago. Now, now James is saying, oh, Mancow edited this to say something that it really didnt say. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. And I know it was a battle. We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. You could tell where it was headed probably. A strong woman with a stronger husband will become an unstoppable, gracious, and capable woman. No One Knows. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center to become dean, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while pastoring at Harvest, It has been said, Show me a persons checkbook and I can tell you what he cares about. Social Action, 1964 James MacDonald, the, Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday featured disgraced pastor James MacDonald as a guest on Camerons TBN Takeaways program on biblical illiteracy. MacDonald was fired, Mark DeMoss, a man described by Christianity Today as Evangelicalisms PR Guru and a former Liberty University trustee, is apparently spending time with two men, Its been more than two years since Harvest Bible Chapel fired James MacDonald for engaging in conduct . How about that one? If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. I followed his ministry for almost 2 decades. And if I would, you know, post some sort of statement. And many who have followed this story know what James McDonald has done. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. Visconti also had posts supporting far-right causes. Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. Julie can and has spoken for herself, but I must speak up against loaded questions like this. And this was a spiritual battle. Youre better off reading the Bible at home with your cat. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. Others as well, who were defending and saying, well, the elders shouldnt even have these letters we had agreed, they go to the reconciliation team. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. This is not my judgment but that of his elders from HBC. "I was sitting in the back seat. Come out of her, my people. 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